In this week's episode, D.J. talks with Seattle therapist Danielle DeBray about emotional intimacy and addiction. In the interview, Danielle references the classic psychological experiment "Rat Park" from 1978, which demonstrated how connectivity beats addiction and she calls for our own "Chimp Park" to beat the various addictions us humans have to other people, places, and things.  Danielle is an expert on emotional attachement, atunement, addiction, eating disorders, and a phenomenal group therapist. She has been in the field of counseling for over 23 years. To learn more about Danielle visit her website. Here is a YouTube video on Rat park. 


Making An Addict is hosted by D.J. Burr, psychotherapist, and author of I Just Wanted Love: Recovery of a Codependent, Sex and Love Addict and the host of the podcast Journey On: Men Healing from Sexual Abuse & Assault.


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